{"id":3728,"date":"2025-09-20T00:05:56","date_gmt":"2025-09-19T22:05:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/?p=3728"},"modified":"2025-09-12T14:39:59","modified_gmt":"2025-09-12T12:39:59","slug":"les-experiences-de-claire-bretecher","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/index.php\/2025\/09\/20\/les-experiences-de-claire-bretecher\/","title":{"rendered":"Les exp\u00e9riences de Claire Bret\u00e9cher"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">La monographie <em>L\u2019Art de Bret\u00e9cher<\/em> qu\u2019a publi\u00e9e Dargaud au printemps est un volume fort s\u00e9duisant mais qui para\u00eet avoir \u00e9t\u00e9 con\u00e7u dans une certaine pr\u00e9cipitation\u00a0; certaines pages sentent le remplissage et les textes sont parfois un peu insuffisants.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload alignright wp-image-3734 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/couve-Bretecher.jpeg\" data-orig-src=\"https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/couve-Bretecher.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"218\" height=\"232\" srcset=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D%27http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%27%20width%3D%27218%27%20height%3D%27232%27%20viewBox%3D%270%200%20218%20232%27%3E%3Crect%20width%3D%27218%27%20height%3D%27232%27%20fill-opacity%3D%220%22%2F%3E%3C%2Fsvg%3E\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/couve-Bretecher-200x213.jpeg 200w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/couve-Bretecher.jpeg 218w\" data-sizes=\"auto\" data-orig-sizes=\"(max-width: 218px) 100vw, 218px\" \/>Un lecteur de ce blog, Emmanuel Veilhan, a attir\u00e9 mon attention sur une erreur grossi\u00e8re qui figure aux pages 156-157. Les auteurs ont reproduit une demi-planche, dont ils ne donnent pas le titre, parue, selon eux, dans <em>Pilote Annuel<\/em> n\u00b0 2 en novembre 1971, et qui pr\u00e9sente la particularit\u00e9 d\u2019\u00eatre lettr\u00e9e par Gotlib. Le document est assorti de ce commentaire\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0Leur proximit\u00e9 et la surcharge de travail explique sans doute ce rare cas o\u00f9 [Bret\u00e9cher] accepta de confier \u00e0 quelqu\u2019un d\u2019autre le soin de lettrer ces pages \u00bb. Or, l\u2019histoire n\u2019est pas du tout celle-l\u00e0.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">C\u2019est en r\u00e9alit\u00e9 dans le n\u00b0 604 de <em>Pilote<\/em> que cette page a \u00e9t\u00e9 publi\u00e9e pour la premi\u00e8re fois, le 3 juin 1971, avant d\u2019\u00eatre reprise quelques mois plus tard dans l\u2019anthologie annuelle que proposait l\u2019hebdomadaire. Et elle faisait partie d\u2019une exp\u00e9rimentation con\u00e7ue par le sc\u00e9nariste et journaliste Jean-Marie P\u00e9laprat, \u00e0 laquelle Bret\u00e9cher avait obligeamment pr\u00eat\u00e9 son concours. Sous le titre \u00ab La Charrue avant les b\u0153ufs \u00bb, la dessinatrice signait une planche dont les bulles \u00e9taient volontairement laiss\u00e9es vides, \u00e0 charge pour quatre confr\u00e8res, Lob, Gotlib, de Beketch et Fred, d\u2019imaginer des textes pouvant correspondre aux dessins et donc de proposer une version intelligible et personnelle de la page en question. \u00ab L\u2019aventure du dessin avant le texte m\u00e9ritait d\u2019\u00eatre tent\u00e9e \u00bb, \u00e9crit P\u00e9laprat, qui loue les efforts des quatre comp\u00e8res pour \u00ab justifier et lier des illustrations cr\u00e9\u00e9es librement sans aucun souci de sc\u00e9nario coh\u00e9rent \u00bb. De fait, l\u2019autrice des <em>Frustr\u00e9s<\/em> n\u2019avait pas simplifi\u00e9 la t\u00e2che de ses acolytes en m\u00e9langeant des ingr\u00e9dients pour le moins h\u00e9t\u00e9rog\u00e8nes. Qu\u2019on en juge.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload aligncenter wp-image-3731 size-fusion-600\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/La-Charrue-avant-les-boeufs-600x748.jpg\" data-orig-src=\"https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/La-Charrue-avant-les-boeufs-600x748.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"748\" srcset=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D%27http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%27%20width%3D%27600%27%20height%3D%27748%27%20viewBox%3D%270%200%20600%20748%27%3E%3Crect%20width%3D%27600%27%20height%3D%27748%27%20fill-opacity%3D%220%22%2F%3E%3C%2Fsvg%3E\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/La-Charrue-avant-les-boeufs-200x249.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/La-Charrue-avant-les-boeufs-241x300.jpg 241w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/La-Charrue-avant-les-boeufs-400x499.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/La-Charrue-avant-les-boeufs-600x748.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/La-Charrue-avant-les-boeufs-768x958.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/La-Charrue-avant-les-boeufs-800x997.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/La-Charrue-avant-les-boeufs-821x1024.jpg 821w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/La-Charrue-avant-les-boeufs-1200x1496.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/La-Charrue-avant-les-boeufs-1232x1536.jpg 1232w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/La-Charrue-avant-les-boeufs.jpg 1309w\" data-sizes=\"auto\" data-orig-sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">L\u2019interpr\u00e9tation propos\u00e9e par Lob avait pour titre \u00ab L\u2019homme du landau \u00bb (troublante pr\u00e9figuration de son album <em>L\u2019Homme au landau <\/em>qui para\u00eetra six ans plus tard), celle de Fred \u00ab Les d\u00e9molisseurs de cath\u00e9drale \u00bb, celle de de Beketch \u00ab Albine Renaude \u00bb et celle de Gotlib (dont la monographie ne reprend que la moiti\u00e9 du haut) \u00ab Les amants tragiques \u00bb. Chaque version \u00e9tait lettr\u00e9e par le sc\u00e9nariste concern\u00e9 et introduite par un faux r\u00e9sum\u00e9 cens\u00e9 mettre la planche en contexte, comme si elle constituait un fragment d\u2019un feuilleton dont nous n\u2019aurions pas lu le d\u00e9but et ne conna\u00eetrions jamais la fin.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3732\" style=\"width: 610px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3732\" class=\"lazyload wp-image-3732 size-fusion-600\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-Gotlib-600x389.jpg\" data-orig-src=\"https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-Gotlib-600x389.jpg\" alt=\"Bret\u00e9cher lettr\u00e9e par Gotlib\" width=\"600\" height=\"389\" srcset=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D%27http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%27%20width%3D%27600%27%20height%3D%27389%27%20viewBox%3D%270%200%20600%20389%27%3E%3Crect%20width%3D%27600%27%20height%3D%27389%27%20fill-opacity%3D%220%22%2F%3E%3C%2Fsvg%3E\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-Gotlib-200x130.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-Gotlib-300x194.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-Gotlib-400x259.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-Gotlib-600x389.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-Gotlib-768x498.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-Gotlib-800x519.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-Gotlib-1024x664.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-Gotlib-1200x778.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-Gotlib-1536x996.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-Gotlib.jpg 1845w\" data-sizes=\"auto\" data-orig-sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-3732\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">La demi-planche dialogu\u00e9e et lettr\u00e9e par Gotlib, reproduite dans \u00ab\u00a0L&rsquo;Art de Bret\u00e9cher\u00a0\u00bb &#8211; \u00a9 Dargaud<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">En ce temps-l\u00e0 <em>Pilote<\/em> n&rsquo;\u00e9tait pas avare d&rsquo;exp\u00e9rimentations formelles. On se souvient notamment de Morris et Giraud r\u00e9interpr\u00e9tant chacun dans leur propre style une planche de l\u2019autre, ou de Jean Ache adaptant <em>Le Petit Chaperon rouge<\/em> \u00e0 la mani\u00e8re de sept peintres c\u00e9l\u00e8bres. Claire Bret\u00e9cher ne s\u2019est jamais montr\u00e9e particuli\u00e8rement int\u00e9ress\u00e9e par ces jeux pr\u00e9-oubapiens. Cependant la monographie m\u2019a remis en m\u00e9moire une autre s\u00e9quence m\u00e9morable, reproduite aux pages 166 \u00e0 171. C\u2019est un extrait du feuilleton \u00ab Les aventures adventices de Doudou-Daffodil \u00bb, paru dans <em>L\u2019\u00c9cho des savanes<\/em> n\u00b0s 6 \u00e0 9, en 1974. Bret\u00e9cher \u2013 qui refusait de se dire f\u00e9ministe \u2013 y repr\u00e9sentait (et peut-\u00eatre s\u2019agissait-il d\u2019une premi\u00e8re dans la bande dessin\u00e9e) une sc\u00e8ne d\u2019agression sexuelle (j\u2019h\u00e9site \u00e0 utiliser le mot viol car on ne voit pas clairement s\u2019il y a r\u00e9ellement p\u00e9n\u00e9tration, mais enfin c\u2019est ind\u00e9niablement ce que se propose l\u2019agresseur).<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3733\" style=\"width: 610px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3733\" class=\"lazyload wp-image-3733 size-fusion-600\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-viol-600x812.jpg\" data-orig-src=\"https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-viol-600x812.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"812\" srcset=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D%27http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%27%20width%3D%27600%27%20height%3D%27812%27%20viewBox%3D%270%200%20600%20812%27%3E%3Crect%20width%3D%27600%27%20height%3D%27812%27%20fill-opacity%3D%220%22%2F%3E%3C%2Fsvg%3E\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-viol-200x271.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-viol-222x300.jpg 222w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-viol-400x542.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-viol-600x812.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-viol-756x1024.jpg 756w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-viol-768x1040.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-viol-800x1083.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-viol-1135x1536.jpg 1135w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-viol-1200x1625.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.thierry-groensteen.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/Bretecher-viol.jpg 1297w\" data-sizes=\"auto\" data-orig-sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-3733\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">\u00a9 Dargaud<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ind\u00e9pendamment de son int\u00e9r\u00eat sociologique, la sc\u00e8ne int\u00e9resse le th\u00e9oricien de la bande dessin\u00e9e que je suis. Dans <em>Syst\u00e8me de la bande dessin\u00e9e<\/em>, j\u2019ai \u00e9tabli en effet que le <em>monstrateur<\/em>(l\u2019instance charg\u00e9e de la mise en image du r\u00e9cit) pouvait quelquefois sortir de sa neutralit\u00e9 et pr\u00e9tendre laisser para\u00eetre son \u00e9motion en modifiant son \u00e9criture graphique. Je citais notamment, \u00e0 l\u2019appui de cette id\u00e9e, la sc\u00e8ne de viol repr\u00e9sent\u00e9e par Baudoin dans <em>Salade ni\u00e7oise<\/em>, o\u00f9 l\u2019on observe que \u00ab son dessin se fait lui-m\u00eame sauvage, brutal et comme incontr\u00f4l\u00e9 \u00bb (<em>Syst\u00e8me, \u00e9dition d\u00e9finitive<\/em>, p. 409). Eh bien, chez Bret\u00e9cher, ce n\u2019est pas tant le trait lui-m\u00eame qui est alt\u00e9r\u00e9 pour manifester la sauvagerie de la sc\u00e8ne, mais la mise en page et l\u2019\u00e9chelle des plans : on passe, aux pages 11 et 12 de l\u2019histoire, d\u2019une mise en page en trois bandes \u00e0 un gaufrier de douze vignettes, avec des cadrages plus serr\u00e9s ne laissant apercevoir que des d\u00e9tails de l\u2019action, tandis qu\u2019il n\u2019y a presque plus aucun dialogue. Ces changements affectent des param\u00e8tres dont la gestion incombe, selon l\u2019\u00e9difice th\u00e9orique que j\u2019ai propos\u00e9, au <em>narrateur<\/em>. Ils illustrent la possibilit\u00e9 que celui-ci puisse lui aussi montrer son implication \u00e9motionnelle dans les \u00e9v\u00e9nements qu\u2019il rapporte. Semblable jeu avec les codes, rare chez la dessinatrice vedette de <em>Pilote<\/em> puis du <em>Nouvel Obs<\/em>, rend encore plus marquante cette sc\u00e8ne, d\u00e9j\u00e0 notable par son sujet.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>La monographie L\u2019Art de Bret\u00e9cher qu\u2019a publi\u00e9e Dargaud au printemps est un volume fort s\u00e9duisant mais qui para\u00eet avoir \u00e9t\u00e9 con\u00e7u dans une certaine pr\u00e9cipitation\u00a0; certaines pages sentent le remplissage et les textes sont parfois un peu insuffisants. 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